If u stopped hcg your LH level will have been zero though surely as hcg mimics that. Hopefully just your LH level needing a bit of time.

seems to have pretty much sorted itself out now, i'm not back at 100% normal but not far off it now

LH level on hte original test was thru the roof but i was still taking hcg at that point lol

chris

What do u mean with your test levels mate? Its knackered your natural test level or what?

Big congrats btw

when i stopped the 1500iu hcg/75iu hmg protocol i got my bloods tested and my natural test level was 20% of what it should have been. my doctor suggested that perhaps the high levels of hcg or possibly the hmg had somehow rebounded and shut down my testosterone production or suppressed it. prior to taking the hcg/hmg I had my test levels checked as part of the infertility checks and it was fine. I had been doing hcg at i think 250iu eod for a couple of months prior to this but then changed to the higher dose  hcg/hmg and had been on it right up until the first blood test which would have been around 4 months or so.

my initial testosterone reading was as i said 20% of normal, my white blood cell count was also very low and my iron levels were thru the roof - i have a family history of hemochromatosis so this is not a big surprise. a couple of weeks ago i had a second load of tests and apparently my testosterone and white blood cell count are going in the right direction but still low. i have 2 weeks before i am tested again.

i've pretty much no idea what's happening tbh as i thought hcg was used to increase your testosterone production? certainly my sperm count went from absolutely zero (due i think to M2T) up to well above normal in the months i was taking the hcg/hmg, so it was a bit of a surprise to find that my testosterone level was well below normal.

hopefully i'll get a good result with the next blood test, i could understand if i'd been taking gear but i'm not.

the important thing is that regardless of what this did to my test levels, we managed to conceive after years of trying. eventually my test levels will normalise and if not i'll just start TRT as i'm not going to continue feeling sh!tty for much longer before i lose patience and just take some test myself lol

Chris

chris

i would say the insurance company is in breach of contract. you had an agreement with them and without notification they changed it, therefore no contract.

chris

test as trt with low dose deca isn't going to give you massive gains but i'd love to do that at the moment tbh.

the deca only cycle is very old school, i remember people doing this when i was going to a body building gym as a little 7st kid in the late 80's. really the only thing folk used in that gym was deca only , deca and dbol, dbol only and some used a bit of test or test and deca don't remember anyone going away from those 3 steroids tbh. and they were all fu*king massive - but then i was 7st

trt with the occasional couple of months on low dose deca over a year is going to make a good difference to your body and with minimal side effects

chris

out of 16 fertilised eggs we ended up with 9 blastocysts but only 4 of those made it to the embryo stage for freezing.

now natalie is on different drugs to get her body ready for implantation and pregnancy which takes longer than i had than i had thought as we're only going in this week to get that scheduled.

so i'm pretty much out of the equation now tbh, it's all now just down to natalie.

i'm both very excited and absolutely f0cking terrified

chris

Job done

egg harvest and final sample from me earlier this morning.  managed to get 17 eggs, 16 of which have been fertilised so on monday we'll see how many make it past this stage to the blastocyst embryo stage then they'll be frozen around wednesday and we can get scheduled in for implantation.

exciting times

chris

absolutely.

Egg harvest and sperm sample happening this Friday and then it's all down to the lab technicians to sort us out

i have to say tho, i am very short tempered.

chris